GERONIMO
Annual accounts 2025
full format, filed on 07-07-2026, 24 days before the deadlineMoney flows
of every €100 of turnover, €2.56 remains as profit in 2025Balance sheet
balance sheet total €7.2m on 31-12-2025in €m
in €m
Position in the sector
19.8%
Higher than 38% of 232 companies in 2025.
1.57
Higher than 57% of 225 companies in 2025.
3.1%
Higher than 55% of 231 companies in 2025.
Net result: top quarter · Equity: middle half · Balance sheet total: top quarter · Working capital: top quarter · Staff: middle half
Staff
Men and women39% women
4.5 men and 2.9 women in full-time equivalents in 2025.
€59,147
Men €57,381, women €61,887 per full-time equivalent. Jobs differ, so this is not a pay gap.
-3 people
In 2025, 9 people joined and 12 left. Agency workers: 8 on average.
Filed annual accounts
as filed with the National Bank, click a year to choose it| Line | Trend | 2025 | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 | 2020 | 2019 | 2018 | 2017 | 2016 | 2015 | 2014 | 2013 | 2012 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Balance sheet: assets | |||||||||||||||
20/58 |
7.2m | 7.5m | 7.3m | 7.5m | 3.0m | 1.9m | 2.0m | 3.7m | 3.9m | 1.4m | 1.2m | 946,842 | 510,603 | 308,253 | |
21/28 |
399,077 | 534,966 | 630,106 | 915,173 | 399,440 | 353,158 | 699,758 | 1.5m | 1.3m | 172,065 | 40,980 | 83,424 | 38,030 | 9,076 | |
21 |
14,578 | 18,377 | 168,207 | 335,234 | 52,151 | 174,205 | 566,002 | 752,479 | 538,753 | - | - | - | - | - | |
22/27 |
384,289 | 487,879 | 430,998 | 549,039 | 318,789 | 178,953 | 133,756 | 768,740 | 798,645 | 165,649 | 34,564 | 75,924 | 30,530 | 9,076 | |
22 |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | 605,603 | 629,989 | - | - | - | - | - | |
23 |
73,806 | 86,664 | 112,490 | 124,991 | 61,415 | 44,735 | 43,936 | 23,581 | 52,467 | 66,735 | 20,771 | 8,043 | 11,683 | 5,908 | |
24 |
57,373 | 122,292 | 204,601 | 348,759 | 206,021 | 98,551 | 48,085 | 91,752 | 81,268 | 75,175 | 13,793 | 67,880 | 18,847 | 3,168 | |
26 |
253,109 | 278,923 | 113,908 | 75,288 | 51,353 | 35,667 | 41,735 | 47,804 | 34,922 | 23,739 | - | - | - | - | |
28 |
210 | 28,710 | 30,900 | 30,900 | 28,500 | - | - | 6,416 | 6,536 | 6,416 | 6,416 | 7,500 | 7,500 | - | |
284/8 |
210 | 28,710 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
285/8 |
210 | 28,710 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
29/58 |
6.8m | 7.0m | 6.7m | 6.6m | 2.6m | 1.6m | 1.3m | 2.2m | 2.5m | 1.2m | 1.2m | 863,418 | 472,574 | 299,177 | |
3 |
0 | 0 | 733,904 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
37 |
- | 0 | 733,904 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
40/41 |
6.0m | 6.8m | 5.4m | 5.5m | 2.2m | 1.1m | 897,555 | 2.0m | 2.0m | 1.0m | 868,325 | 621,886 | 378,589 | 266,851 | |
40 |
5.0m | 6.4m | 4.6m | 4.3m | 2.1m | 998,025 | 744,300 | 1.9m | 1.7m | 992,863 | 849,146 | 621,793 | 378,556 | 217,970 | |
41 |
1.0m | 387,613 | 751,735 | 1.2m | 87,839 | 55,633 | 153,254 | 105,398 | 216,837 | 56,595 | 19,179 | 92 | 33 | 48,881 | |
50/53 |
400,000 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
51/53 |
400,000 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
54/58 |
392,458 | 157,546 | 458,684 | 486,326 | 74,267 | 406,759 | 356,504 | 114,759 | 448,956 | 151,834 | 255,626 | 235,311 | 93,985 | 32,326 | |
490/1 |
25,991 | 39,695 | 131,571 | 649,978 | 305,935 | 97,944 | 85,000 | 68,528 | 138,524 | - | 63,771 | 6,222 | - | - | |
| Balance sheet: equity and liabilities | |||||||||||||||
10/49 |
7.2m | 7.5m | 7.3m | 7.5m | 3.0m | 1.9m | 2.0m | 3.7m | 3.9m | 1.4m | 1.2m | 946,842 | 510,603 | 308,253 | |
10/15 |
1.4m | 1.0m | 1.1m | 658,745 | 588,333 | 530,726 | 680,330 | 696,488 | 665,092 | 411,387 | 280,653 | 94,285 | 56,036 | 10,403 | |
10/11 |
6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | 6,200 | |
100 |
- | - | - | - | - | - | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | 18,600 | |
101 |
- | - | - | - | - | - | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | 12,400 | |
13 |
1.2m | 1,860 | 390,160 | 390,160 | 319,760 | 141,860 | 41,860 | 28,182 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | |
130/1 |
- | - | - | 0 | 1,860 | 1,860 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
130 |
- | - | - | - | - | - | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | 1,860 | |
1311 |
- | - | - | 0 | 1,860 | 1,860 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
133 |
1.2m | 1,860 | 390,160 | 390,160 | 317,900 | 140,000 | 40,000 | 26,322 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
14 |
0 | 1.0m | 654,973 | 262,385 | 262,373 | 362,304 | 560,270 | 559,645 | 516,192 | 403,327 | 272,593 | 86,225 | 47,976 | 2,343 | |
15 |
201,822 | - | - | - | 0 | 20,363 | 72,000 | 102,461 | 140,840 | - | - | - | - | - | |
16 |
67,274 | - | - | - | 0 | 6,788 | 24,000 | 43,039 | 59,160 | - | - | - | - | - | |
168 |
67,274 | - | - | - | 0 | 6,788 | 24,000 | 43,039 | 59,160 | - | - | - | - | - | |
17/49 |
5.7m | 6.5m | 6.3m | 6.9m | 2.4m | 1.4m | 1.3m | 3.0m | 3.2m | 961,969 | 948,049 | 852,557 | 454,568 | 297,850 | |
17 |
318,217 | 470,044 | 541,340 | 302,875 | 195,785 | 140,993 | 141,154 | 656,096 | 652,711 | 61,681 | - | - | - | - | |
170/4 |
318,217 | 470,044 | 541,340 | 302,875 | 195,785 | 140,993 | 141,154 | 656,096 | 652,711 | 61,681 | - | - | - | - | |
173 |
318,217 | 470,044 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
42/48 |
4.4m | 5.7m | 5.2m | 4.6m | 1.5m | 998,913 | 745,063 | 1.1m | 1.7m | 892,144 | 948,049 | 852,557 | 454,568 | 297,850 | |
42 |
183,650 | 195,782 | 190,633 | 211,685 | 106,945 | 92,989 | 387,731 | 527,785 | 774,267 | 384,389 | 365,217 | 304,727 | 154,675 | 200,604 | |
43 |
0 | 900,000 | 1.1m | 1.1m | 200,000 | 300,000 | - | - | 461 | 663 | 6,588 | 869 | 3,416 | - | |
430/8 |
0 | 900,000 | 1.1m | 1.1m | 200,000 | 300,000 | - | - | 461 | 663 | 6,588 | 869 | 3,416 | - | |
44 |
4.0m | 4.0m | 2.0m | 2.7m | 617,075 | 490,147 | 236,251 | 194,668 | 628,531 | 412,680 | 468,762 | 432,181 | 263,387 | 92,578 | |
440/4 |
4.0m | 4.0m | 2.0m | 2.7m | 617,075 | 490,147 | 236,251 | 194,668 | 628,531 | 412,680 | 468,762 | 432,181 | 263,387 | 92,578 | |
46 |
- | 0 | 1.4m | 2,169 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
45 |
117,212 | 357,619 | 320,292 | 324,457 | 108,710 | 105,381 | 67,176 | 264,336 | 211,925 | 79,412 | 100,481 | 114,779 | 33,090 | 4,668 | |
450/3 |
77,448 | 300,566 | 266,633 | 242,467 | 4,714 | 11,037 | 5,544 | 133,504 | 130,064 | 42,551 | 63,700 | 80,799 | 16,947 | 4,668 | |
454/9 |
39,764 | 57,053 | 53,659 | 81,990 | 103,996 | 94,344 | 61,633 | 130,832 | 81,861 | 36,861 | 36,781 | 33,979 | 16,143 | - | |
47/48 |
120,516 | 316,371 | 195,069 | 250,000 | 472,319 | 10,397 | 53,905 | 104,000 | 100,267 | 15,000 | 7,000 | - | - | - | |
492/3 |
1.1m | 302,125 | 490,000 | 2.0m | 702,500 | 234,100 | 448,270 | 1.2m | 791,625 | 8,143 | - | - | - | - | |
| Income statement | |||||||||||||||
70/76A |
10.9m | 13.3m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
70 |
8.6m | 12.0m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
71 |
0 | -733,904 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
72 |
1.7m | 1.5m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
74 |
477,422 | 615,874 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
76A |
- | 0 | 49,781 | 2,917 | 4,935 | 11,250 | 67,380 | - | - | 14,423 | 424 | - | - | 100 | |
9900 |
- | - | 4.8m | 2.7m | 1.7m | 1.7m | 2.3m | 2.4m | 1.5m | 838,257 | 832,816 | 368,239 | 268,006 | 16,945 | |
60/66A |
11.0m | 13.1m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
60 |
6.8m | 8.8m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
600/8 |
6.8m | 8.8m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
61 |
1.5m | 1.6m | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
62 |
437,688 | 808,299 | 892,626 | 1.3m | 1.2m | 962,100 | 771,489 | 1.4m | 874,812 | 401,803 | 287,553 | 187,293 | 124,541 | 1,889 | |
630 |
1.9m | 1.9m | 4.5m | 1.3m | 281,858 | 523,363 | 1.3m | 846,779 | 246,753 | 184,591 | 229,192 | 101,721 | 58,354 | 3,746 | |
640/8 |
267,206 | 109,929 | 75,332 | 173,028 | 63,154 | 28,403 | 47,756 | 31,737 | 15,650 | 8,291 | 2,221 | 2,659 | 2,489 | 385 | |
66A |
- | 0 | 21,508 | 0 | 3,127 | - | 7,283 | 13,967 | 1,509 | 2,505 | 1,383 | 4,929 | - | - | |
9901 |
-129,177 | 209,810 | -650,116 | -88,018 | 105,634 | 142,486 | 187,009 | 118,420 | 406,977 | 241,067 | 313,849 | 76,567 | 82,622 | 10,925 | |
75/76B |
393,064 | 320,874 | 994,824 | 206,027 | 110,111 | 52,499 | 155,257 | 142,223 | 5,834 | 2,764 | 1,022 | 2,836 | 953 | 252 | |
75 |
393,064 | 320,874 | 994,824 | 206,027 | 110,111 | 52,499 | 155,257 | 142,223 | 5,834 | 2,764 | 1,022 | 2,836 | 953 | 252 | |
751 |
0 | 1,046 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
752/9 |
393,064 | 319,828 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
65/66B |
64,655 | 108,705 | 71,890 | 47,432 | 23,969 | 12,852 | 43,785 | 34,997 | 21,026 | 17,271 | 13,805 | 11,921 | 9,103 | 4,057 | |
65 |
56,299 | 79,635 | 71,890 | 47,432 | 23,969 | 12,852 | 43,785 | 34,997 | 21,026 | 17,271 | 13,805 | 11,921 | 9,103 | 4,057 | |
650 |
15,129 | 21,121 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
652/9 |
41,170 | 58,515 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
66B |
8,356 | 29,069 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
9903 |
199,232 | 421,980 | 272,818 | 70,577 | 191,775 | 182,134 | 298,481 | 225,646 | 391,785 | 226,560 | 300,107 | 62,554 | 74,473 | 7,220 | |
780 |
131,012 | 106,250 | 331,250 | 68,250 | 36,538 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
67/77 |
108,633 | 182,183 | 211,480 | 68,414 | 50,344 | 11,313 | 34,561 | 53,546 | 98,326 | 80,825 | 106,739 | 24,305 | 28,840 | 3,017 | |
670/3 |
108,633 | 182,183 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
9904 |
221,611 | 346,047 | 392,588 | 70,412 | 177,969 | 188,033 | 329,535 | 229,929 | 293,459 | 145,734 | 193,368 | 38,249 | 45,633 | 4,203 | |
9905 |
221,611 | 346,047 | 392,588 | 70,412 | 177,969 | 188,033 | 329,535 | 229,929 | 293,459 | 145,734 | 193,368 | 38,249 | 45,633 | 4,203 | |
| Appropriation of the result | |||||||||||||||
9906 |
1.2m | 1.0m | 654,973 | 332,785 | 540,273 | 748,304 | 889,180 | 746,121 | 696,787 | 418,327 | 279,593 | 86,225 | 47,976 | 4,203 | |
14P |
1.0m | 654,973 | 262,385 | 262,373 | 362,304 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
791/2 |
0 | 388,300 | - | - | - | - | 26,322 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
792 |
0 | 388,300 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
691/2 |
1.2m | - | 0 | 70,400 | 177,900 | 100,000 | 40,000 | 26,322 | - | - | - | - | - | 1,860 | |
6920 |
- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 1,860 | |
6921 |
1.2m | - | 0 | 70,400 | 177,900 | 100,000 | 40,000 | 26,322 | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
694/7 |
0 | 388,300 | - | 0 | 100,000 | 286,000 | 315,232 | 160,153 | 180,595 | 15,000 | 7,000 | - | - | - | |
694 |
0 | 388,300 | - | - | - | - | 26,322 | - | 50,000 | 15,000 | 7,000 | - | - | - | |
695 |
- | - | - | 0 | 100,000 | 286,000 | 288,910 | 160,153 | 130,595 | - | - | - | - | - | |
| Social balance sheet | |||||||||||||||
9087 |
7.4 | 10.3 | 15.1 | 23.2 | 24.4 | 17.5 | 13.7 | 28.1 | 18.1 | 8.9 | 6.6 | 5.2 | 3.2 | - | |
Men (FTE)1003 |
4.5 | 5.1 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
Women (FTE)1003 |
2.9 | 5.2 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
Agency workers1501 |
8 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | |
Hours worked1013 |
10,964 | 18,805 | 23,242 | 41,292 | 39,990 | 30,611 | 24,298 | 48,822 | 32,902 | 16,643 | 12,258 | 8,937 | 5,350 | - | |
| Document | |||||||||||||||
The notes to these accounts have 77 items, including the statement of assets and debts, the cost breakdown and rights and commitments. You find them in the accounts filed with the NBB.
Source: Annual accounts 2025 at the NBB, filed on 07-07-2026.
Filings
each dot is a set of accounts, on the day it reached the National Bank| Financial year | Type | Filed | Reference | Document |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 31-12-2025 | full format | 07-07-2026 | 2026-00261248 | |
| 31-12-2024 | full format | 14-07-2025 | 2025-00276096 | |
| 31-12-2023 | abbreviated format | 29-08-2024 | 2024-00391380 | |
| 31-12-2022 | abbreviated format | 04-10-2023 | 2023-00470441 | |
| 31-12-2021 | abbreviated format | 25-08-2022 | 2022-20315576 | |
| 31-12-2020 | abbreviated format | 04-10-2021 | 2021-70400221 | |
| 31-12-2019 | abbreviated format | 08-10-2020 | 2020-59700023 | |
| 31-12-2018 | abbreviated format | 20-08-2019 | 2019-47300550 | |
| 31-12-2017 | abbreviated format | 31-08-2018 | 2018-55000535 | |
| 31-12-2016 | abbreviated format | 22-08-2017 | 2017-45000574 | |
| 31-12-2015 | abbreviated format | 19-07-2016 | 2016-32500038 | |
| 31-12-2014 | abbreviated format | 12-08-2015 | 2015-41100153 | |
| 31-12-2013 | abbreviated format | 08-07-2014 | 2014-27500001 | |
| 31-12-2012 | abbreviated format | 27-08-2013 | 2013-46300453 |
Subsidies and aid
Flemish government 2022 to 2025, 5 entries, €79,490 awarded, €20,990 paid
| Year | Entries | Awarded | Paid |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | 1 | €1,257 | €1,257 |
| 2024 | 1 | €0 | €6,500 |
| 2023 | 1 | €5,733 | €5,733 |
| 2022 | 2 | €72,500 | €7,500 |
Key figures and ratios
per financial year, computed from the annual accounts| Line | Trend | 2025 | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 | 2020 | 2019 | 2018 | 2017 | 2016 | 2015 | 2014 | 2013 | 2012 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1.8m | 2.1m | 3.8m | 1.2m | 387,492 | 665,849 | 1.4m | 965,199 | 653,730 | 425,657 | 543,041 | 178,288 | 140,976 | 14,671 | ||
| 2.2m | 2.2m | 4.8m | 1.3m | 459,827 | 711,396 | 1.6m | 1.1m | 540,212 | 330,325 | 422,560 | 139,970 | 103,987 | 7,949 | ||
| 1.8m | 1.8m | 4.3m | 1.8m | 352,463 | 176,763 | 1.0m | 1.0m | 1.4m | 317,576 | 194,578 | 147,115 | 87,308 | 12,822 | ||
| 234,912 | -301,139 | -27,642 | 412,060 | -332,492 | 50,255 | 241,745 | -334,198 | 297,123 | -103,792 | 20,315 | 141,326 | 61,659 | - | ||
| 2.5m | 1.2m | 1.5m | 2.0m | 1.1m | 559,449 | 593,996 | 1.1m | 824,653 | 309,147 | 239,673 | 10,861 | 18,006 | 1,327 | ||
| -1.5% | 1.7% | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||
| 19.8% | 13.4% | 14.4% | 8.7% | 19.7% | 27.8% | 33.4% | 18.7% | 17.1% | 30.0% | 22.8% | 10.0% | 11.0% | 3.4% | ||
| 1.57 | 1.22 | 1.28 | 1.45 | 1.72 | 1.56 | 1.80 | 2.01 | 1.48 | 1.35 | 1.25 | 1.01 | 1.04 | 1.00 | ||
| 1.57 | 1.22 | 1.14 | 1.45 | 1.72 | 1.56 | 1.80 | 2.01 | 1.48 | 1.35 | 1.25 | 1.01 | 1.04 | 1.00 | ||
| 4.01 | 6.45 | 5.95 | 10.43 | 4.08 | 2.59 | 1.96 | 4.28 | 4.75 | 2.34 | 3.38 | 9.04 | 8.11 | 28.63 | ||
| 15.5% | 34.3% | 37.3% | 10.7% | 30.2% | 35.4% | 48.4% | 33.0% | 44.1% | 35.4% | 68.9% | 40.6% | 81.4% | 40.4% | ||
| 3.1% | 4.6% | 5.4% | 0.9% | 5.9% | 9.8% | 16.2% | 6.2% | 7.6% | 10.6% | 15.7% | 4.0% | 8.9% | 1.4% | ||
| over 100 | 98.08 | 52.91 | 24.73 | 16.17 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||
| 211 days | 195 days | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | ||
| 173 days | 140 days | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
A Belgian filing has no cash-flow statement. Cash flow is therefore an approximation, derived from the income statement. Investment is the acquisitions in the notes and, without them, the balance-sheet move.
Social balance sheet
| Item | 31-12-2025 | 31-12-2024 | 31-12-2023 | 31-12-2022 | 31-12-2021 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Employees at the balance-sheet date | 6 | 10 | 8 | 21 | 19 |
| full-time | 6 | 7 | 7 | 21 | 19 |
| part-time | 0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| in full-time equivalents | 6 | 8.8 | 7.8 | 21 | 19 |
| 7.4 | 10.3 | 15.1 | 23.2 | 24.4 | |
| On a permanent contract | 6 | 9 | 8 | 21 | 19 |
| Joined | 9 | 40 | 54 | 59 | 23 |
| Left | 12 | 38 | 60 | 57 | 23 |
| Agency workers, average number | 8 | - | - | - | - |
| Training hours | 0 | - | - | - | - |
Source: social balance sheet in the 2021 to 2025 annual accounts
Securities and guarantees
on own assets and for others| Item | 2025 | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| €700,000 | €700,000 | - | - | - |
Source: notes to the 2021 to 2025 annual accounts (statement of debts and off-balance-sheet rights and commitments)
Investments
fixed assets acquired| Item | 2025 | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tangible fixed assets | €64,476 | €261,743 | €177,947 | €410,109 | €253,556 |
| Intangible fixed assets | €1.8m | €1.5m | €4.1m | €1.4m | €70,406 |
| Financial fixed assets | - | - | - | €2,400 | €28,500 |
| €1.9m | €1.9m | €4.5m | €1.3m | €281,858 |
Source: notes to the 2021 to 2025 annual accounts (statement of fixed assets)
Auditor
fees| Item | 2025 | 2024 | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fee for the audit | €14,230 | €16,500 | - | - | - |
| Other work by the auditor | - | €4,500 | - | - | - |
Source: notes to the 2021 to 2025 annual accounts (relations with the auditor)
Insights on GERONIMO
The operating result for 2025 is a loss of €129,177, after a profit of €209,810 in 2024.
Debt's share of the balance-sheet total falls from 86.6% to 79.3%. Equity is higher and debt is lower.